After watching Return of the King for the second time, the pairing Gandalf/Pippin occured to me. (Also talked about this for a bit in my LJ if you want to check out my ramblings.)
Now I'm normally a slasher who enjoys the pairing of equals - huge age differences can squick me as they tend to equal huge differences in experience. Wizards or humans paired with hobbits in the LotR universe also has the squick factor of the differences in size for me. So I am very amazed to find that Gandalf/Pippin would work for me... Strange that I can still surprise myself after all these years of knowing myself. :-) But: Gandalf and Pippin both seem to have to deal with similar issues in the movie "Return of the King", e.g. fear and insecurity. During the course of the movie, I had the feeling that they became equals. Pippin was no longer an irresponsible tween, but he grew up. (E.g. he helps to light the beacons, he saves Gandalf's life by killing the orc - at least I think that this orc would have injured Gandalf otherwise, he *listens* to Gandalf. Gandalf seems to be start trusting him in turn.) And that's something you could base slash on. And no, I don't really want to read NC-17 Gandalf/Pippin, but a relationship-driven story with maybe some PG-13 rated slash scene. :-)
Denethor/Pippin is another matter for me altogether. This would squick me greatly as I could never see Pippin as a willing participant. He's fascinated by Denethor, but also repelled by his behaviour. I could see him falling for Faramir, though, as he strongly sympathizes with him.
Frodo in the tower: I didn't find it erotic at all, but scary. (In the book, I never was sure that he wasn't raped, because the orcs had undressed him completely.)
Hobbits and paedophilia: I can see why you get that impression - in the movie, you really see how small they are whenever standing next to men or elves. But I don't see them as children at all. Pippin is the youngest, but he's actually 28 years old. He has never had any responsibilities in his life, but during the long journey he has to grow up. And all the hobbits are amazingly tough - they withstand all the things they have to go through without losing their souls. (E.g. Sam is stronger than Boromir in withstanding the power of the ring. Pippin is stronger than Denethor who breaks when faced with the reality of the world.) So what I want to say with all my ramblings: They may look young sizewise, but they are certainly not young characterwise. (It also helps that there faces aren't childlike at all - just look at Merry. :-))
Sorry for going on so long - probably without making much sense. It would be nice reading your thoughts.
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Date: 2003-12-29 06:01 am (UTC)Now I'm normally a slasher who enjoys the pairing of equals - huge age differences can squick me as they tend to equal huge differences in experience. Wizards or humans paired with hobbits in the LotR universe also has the squick factor of the differences in size for me. So I am very amazed to find that Gandalf/Pippin would work for me... Strange that I can still surprise myself after all these years of knowing myself. :-)
But: Gandalf and Pippin both seem to have to deal with similar issues in the movie "Return of the King", e.g. fear and insecurity. During the course of the movie, I had the feeling that they became equals. Pippin was no longer an irresponsible tween, but he grew up. (E.g. he helps to light the beacons, he saves Gandalf's life by killing the orc - at least I think that this orc would have injured Gandalf otherwise, he *listens* to Gandalf. Gandalf seems to be start trusting him in turn.) And that's something you could base slash on. And no, I don't really want to read NC-17 Gandalf/Pippin, but a relationship-driven story with maybe some PG-13 rated slash scene. :-)
Denethor/Pippin is another matter for me altogether. This would squick me greatly as I could never see Pippin as a willing participant. He's fascinated by Denethor, but also repelled by his behaviour. I could see him falling for Faramir, though, as he strongly sympathizes with him.
Frodo in the tower: I didn't find it erotic at all, but scary. (In the book, I never was sure that he wasn't raped, because the orcs had undressed him completely.)
Hobbits and paedophilia: I can see why you get that impression - in the movie, you really see how small they are whenever standing next to men or elves. But I don't see them as children at all. Pippin is the youngest, but he's actually 28 years old. He has never had any responsibilities in his life, but during the long journey he has to grow up. And all the hobbits are amazingly tough - they withstand all the things they have to go through without losing their souls. (E.g. Sam is stronger than Boromir in withstanding the power of the ring. Pippin is stronger than Denethor who breaks when faced with the reality of the world.) So what I want to say with all my ramblings: They may look young sizewise, but they are certainly not young characterwise. (It also helps that there faces aren't childlike at all - just look at Merry. :-))
Sorry for going on so long - probably without making much sense. It would be nice reading your thoughts.